THURSDAY 23/10/2014 SYSTEMS & INTRADAY

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  • #9098
    Khalsa
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      SYSTEMS FOR THURSDAY 23RD OCTOBER 2014

      Hi all,

      Recap ….

      Intraday wise …. I banked 0 points in ES today.

      I have 1 long in oil, 7 shorts in spoos and 2 swing positions open.

      Onto today …

      KP
      None in play.

      KTB
      We have a KTB2 triggered at close on 14/10/2014.
      It is now negated after DAY6.

      KTS
      We have a KTS5 triggered at close on 22/10/2014.
      TODAY IS DAY1.

      SYSTEM BDIP

      None in play.

      DDUD
      We have a DDUD Season triggered at close on 02/10/2014.
      TODAY IS DAY15.

      SYSTEMS TRIGGERED

      ESL6 ND

      SYSTEM ESG (KHC+3)
      SHOULD GET +3 MINIMUM, CAN GO TO +5,+7,+10.

      SYSTEM ESH1
      MORE CHANCE OF UPSIDE THAN DOWNSIDE, USUALLY TRADE -VE AT SOME POINT, NORMALLY GET +3, IF NO +3 THEN RARELY CLOSES AT LOWS, DOWNSIDE UNSUSTAINABLE. CHANCES OF +5, +7 ALSO. ALSO THE CLOSE CAN BE VERY ERRATIC. AFTER THIS SYSTEM THERE IS ANOTHER CHANCE OF A +3 THE NEXT DAY

      SYSTEM 70 (KHC +3)
      USUALLY GIVES +3

      SYSTEM 72 (KHC +3)
      SHOULD GET +3,+5 POSSIBLY MORE. DOWNSIDE USUALLY LIMITED TO -5.

      ES90
      DOWNSIDE SHOULD BE MORE THAN UPSIDE. USUALLY PRINTS LITTLE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE CAN BE -5, -7. HIGHS SHOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN +6 AND GOOD CHANCE OF A NEGATIVE CLOSE.

      SYSTEM 130
      ANY GAP UP OPEN SHOULD BE FILLED

      SYSTEM SPXG
      More chance of upside than downside. Usually get +3,Trading > +3 SPX = chances of +5, +7,+10. Could also gap up open.

      SYSTEMSPXH1
      CAN GIVE +3,+5,+7 WITH A POSITIVE CLOSE. THE CLUE IS NOT TRADING MUCH NEGATIVE RTH

      Spoos closed at 1925.75 (basis Dec)

      K+3 = 1928.75

      K-3 = 1922.75

      Conclusion

      We have 3 KHC+3 SYSTEMS in play. Any gap up open should fill the same day as per SYSTEM130.

      We also have A KTS5 DAY1 & DDUD Season DAY15 in play.

      Plan your trade, trade your plan!

      #9099
      smashie212
      Participant

        Yehaaa  KTB negated (sod)

        Sorry Kman, let you get in your thoughts now…

        #9100
        Qman
        Participant

          KTS me up…….

          #9102
          lordia
          Participant

            from my KPAD notes

            THE KTS AND WHAT ONE CAN EXPECT
            The characteristics are usually a small pop (not necessary) the next morning, followed by a drop and a -3. This is a phenomenon of the Bull phase (2003 onwards)
            Where we gap up open, then upside becomes unsustainable and we nearly always gap fill. In the old days (pre March 2003 Bear) it was just simply a drop and drop to -3 and beyond.

            Any KTS targets? Well in the old days (Bear) it could drop 60-80 handles pretty fast. Recently (in the Bull) it has been pretty useless and just been a small CIT for minimum 10-15 points from today’s high. The max drawdown should be no more than 12 points from the trigger day close price.

            The KTS has had failures since March 03 if you are looking for an immediate down the next day. However when a KTS fires its always an early warning for a CIT and could be a multi day pop and drop. Ie up on DAY1 but then down on DAY2.

            Since March 03, its always been a pop and drop and gives you a spoos -3 minimum. Therefore waiting until the next day can give you a better price (ie short the pop before the drop). You can get a +3,+5,+7 maybe even +10 to short the next day. Was not the case pre March 03, but has become a characteristic since.
            Where it fails to sometimes give a -3 (but rarely fails to pop and drop) is when it triggers on a large downday. Those days it could rally to +3/+5,+7 and then drop back. Also when it triggers on a large downday, those days could be when we get the multiday pop and drop.

            Nearly always a KTS was a CIT. However when it failed to immediately trend down on the first KTS, it was sometimes followed by another KTS after a few days and that was the immediate nail in the coffin.

            Problem is sometimes the drawdown was 10-20 points on the First KTS, before the next one.

            Nearly always if it went up and did not give the -3 after the trigger, then next day was quite a nice down day.

            Therefore I look to short the POP for the KTS once I see a good entry the next day.

            best regards to all
            lordia

            #9103
            Qman
            Participant

              We’ve had the pop to short – I’m not adding here. FTSE having none of it – almost back to where it started at open the mad Germans meanwhile…..

              #9104
              Khalsa
              Moderator

                We have a borderline GFS triggered for today.

                Navnit

                Plan your trade, trade your plan!

                #9105
                smashie212
                Participant

                  Looking more and more likely that the FED meeting will mark the top of this rise next week

                  #9106
                  MAURITIUS
                  Participant

                    Wow another +30.

                    gfs borderline too… That would be some fill!

                    #9107
                    MAURITIUS
                    Participant

                      Will kts negate?

                      #9108
                      MAURITIUS
                      Participant

                        Fallen ten since I mentioned gfs fill….

                        #9109
                        Qman
                        Participant

                          Is the fall due to Ebola case on the mustards doorstep in NYC?

                          #9111
                          MAURITIUS
                          Participant

                            Too distracted but should have shorted highs…. HH no.

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